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 Post subject: KID Four Pawns Attack 8. Bd3
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:06 pm 
Question about the King’s Indian Four Pawns Attack 8. Bd3 line.

After 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f4 0–0 6.Nf3 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Bd3 exd5 9.cxd5, white’s bishop on the f1-a6 diagonal makes it more difficult for black to push his queenside pawn majority than in the standard 8. Be2 exd5 9.cxd5 Bg4 10. 0-0 Nbd7 11. Re1 Re8 12. h3 Bxf3 13. Bxf3 Qa5 14. Be3 b5. It would then appear that when white plays 8. Bd3, black’s 13. Qa5 is less effective. Therefore the slower a6-b5 must be prepared along with it.


1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f4 0–0 6.Nf3 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Bd3 exd5 9.cxd5 Bg4 10. 0-0 Nbd7 11. Re1 Re8 (doesn’t threaten Ne4 here like in the previous line) 12. h3 Bxf3 13. Qxf3…and now what is the most accurate way for black to prepare b5?

13...Qa5 (14. a4?! Is still bad on account of 14…c4) but unlike the standard lines, black must now prepare b5 with the slower 14. Be3 a6. I haven’t seen this line covered in Gallagher’s Play the King’s Indian, so does anybody know the theory here? It seems like black is doing ok in the following and can still follow the plans of the main line

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f4 0–0 6.Nf3 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Bd3 exd5 9.cxd5 Bg4 10.0–0 Nbd7 11.Re1 Re8 12.h3 Bxf3 13.Qxf3 Qa5 14.Be3 a6 15.Bf2 b5 16. a3 b4 is similar to Regez-Gallagher Zurich 2003

Is this line more dangerous or have I figured it out well enough?


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OverDjinn wrote:
Nobody loves me:(


Sure we do! It's just that nobody loves the Four Pawns 8)


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Which is amazing since it's so common amongst fledgling blitzers.


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This seems good enough for Black in the 7.Bd3 variation:
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f4 O-O 6.Nf3 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Bd3 exd5 9.cxd5 Re8 10.O-O c4 11.Bc2 b5

After 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f4 O-O 6.Nf3 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Bd3 exd5 9.cxd5 Bg4 10.O-O Nbd7 11.Re1 Re8 12.h3 Bxf3 13.Qxf3, I would personally go for a king-side attack with 13...Nh5, 14...Bxc3 and 15...Qf6. However, a queen-side lauch is also possible with 13...Rc8 when the game can continue thus-> 14.Be3 c4 15.Bc2 Nc5 16.Bxc5 Rxc5 and with an eventual ...b5 (at the right time).


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:14 am 
Finally some analysis!

I tend to disagree with 13…Nh5, which strategically seems to play right into white’s hands. What kind of justification does black have to attack the kingside? I just do not read the position as calling for a kingside attack but rather it seems clear that black’s responsibilities are on the queenside with his pawn majority, so your line with 13…Rac8 is more appealing to me. Your post got me out of bed so I’m a bit groggy for analysis, but in this position I tend to suffer after moves like 14…c4, which objectively are not bad but do require a different sort of play than I find appealing. So I’d play 14…a6, hoping to encourage 15. a4 and only then play c4, perhaps after further coordinating on the c5 square with Qa5.

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.f4 O-O 6.Nf3 c5 7.d5 e6 8.Bd3 exd5 9.cxd5 Re8 10.O-O c4 11.Bc2 b5 is interesting, but 9…Re8 may open up a can of worms my preparation can’t handle above 2300 level.


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