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 Post subject: Allow gmail accounts
PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:51 am 
At least for members with more than x number of posts.
I currently use a gmail account as it is the only decent way I've found to combat spam. I'm slowly giving up my other accounts Can't do anything about spam (and yes, I've used lots of different filtering systems and software)


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 Post subject: Re: Allow gmail accounts
PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:58 pm 
Javier wrote:
At least for members with more than x number of posts.
I currently use a gmail account as it is the only decent way I've found to combat spam. I'm slowly giving up my other accounts Can't do anything about spam (and yes, I've used lots of different filtering systems and software)


Currently only gmail.ru is banned due to high volume of spam registrations, and one specific user with one single gmail-account, but the gmail-domain is not specifically banned.

Most banning is done via IP-numbers, nine out of ten being open relays, which are promptly banned - a policy also enforced by most ISP's.

There's no way to allow one user of a a banned (e-mail)domain to post. It's either all or nothing at all.

There's also a possibility to use a yahoo account, although lots of spam come from yahoo mail account as well; yahoo is quite stringent however in combattting spam and enforcing anti-spam from its own domain.

We're looking into ways to combat robo-registrations, but even the newer ways with retyping visual codes to confirm registration doesn't always work anymore.

Acceptance of each individual account activation is also possible, but in that case the registration already pops up in the member list (which is what these spammers want) and second we want registration quick and smooth, so you can start posting and asking right away when the problem or question occurs, not the day after or hours later.

As long as spam isn't outlawed and fought around the world, we'll have to deal with it, and sometimes choices have to be made which are suboptimal for benevolent users.... :(


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 Post subject: Re: Allow Gmail accounts
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:15 pm 
As a loyal Gmail user, I almost didn't join ChessExchange when I discovered Gmail users weren't welcome on ChessExchange. Gmail users are a technically-inclined community - please don't outlaw them. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:55 pm 
I totally agree Gmail accounts should be allowed. Although Gmail is free, and could possibly be used for spam, the fact that alot of people use it and might not join this forum because they cant register outweighs that. Isn't it better to have 10 new members who are "human" (not spambots) and 10 spambots who have to be banned manually, than to keep them both out?

Also, why, if you ban Gmail accounts, are free Hotmail accounts allowed?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:26 pm 
I don't think that all gmail accounts are banned. According to Jeroen's post, only gmail.ru is banned. Am I mistaken here, J?


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I just tried to register my new gmail account on Chess Exchange (my old address has been shut down cos I left my old ISP). It's a gmail.com address - and chessexchange says that it is banned...
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Kemuri wrote:
I just tried to register my new gmail account on Chess Exchange (my old address has been shut down cos I left my old ISP). It's a gmail.com address - and chessexchange says that it is banned...
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Same here...but it did allow my @live.nl address...


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Phobetor wrote:
Kemuri wrote:
I just tried to register my new gmail account on Chess Exchange (my old address has been shut down cos I left my old ISP). It's a gmail.com address - and chessexchange says that it is banned...
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Same here...but it did allow my @live.nl address...


gmail.com-addresses (save for gmail.ru) were not in the banlist. To be certain, I have checked the list again, deleted it, and inserted the banned addresses again. Maybe it's some kind of glitch.

I have gmail-addresses myself, and after the check I am able to register again with a gmail address. The problem should be solved by now.


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That seems to have solved it. Thanks Jeroen.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:28 pm 
Yeah I had the same problem with my Gmail account, but it wasn’t such a big thing as I contacted an administrator who kindly set me up with her email address and then I just changed it to my own in my profile.

I used co-run a non Chess related forum, so I appreciate the administrator’s point of view here – the amount of spam bots you get joining can get ridiculous even when you take all these precautions – having something permanently advertising Viagra or Russian Brides as the newest member doesn’t exactly give off good vibes about the place :roll: :lol:

So if you only have a free email account, just be patient and contact the administrators – it only takes about a day longer to set up :)


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Nasgard wrote:
Yeah I had the same problem with my Gmail account, but it wasn’t such a big thing as I contacted an administrator who kindly set me up with her email address and then I just changed it to my own in my profile.

I used co-run a non Chess related forum, so I appreciate the administrator’s point of view here – the amount of spam bots you get joining can get ridiculous even when you take all these precautions – having something permanently advertising Viagra or Russian Brides as the newest member doesn’t exactly give off good vibes about the place :roll: :lol:

So if you only have a free email account, just be patient and contact the administrators – it only takes about a day longer to set up :)


The messages you react to are over a year old, but I think it's still useful to react. There are currently no bans in effect. The anti-spam measures we have taken have shown to be sufficient to shield us from 99.9% of all spammers, bots and humans alike. Gmail-accounts are not banned. I use them myself and can easily register with all of my gmail-addresses.

Furthermore I check the user list every day for new registrations. Many of them are from gmail-accounts.

Glitches and problems with software are not uncommon, so it's really possible you bumped into problems, but it had nothing to do with gmail. Given the amount of spam we've encounterd the last six months we're well capable of offering everyone the opportunity of joining without restrictions.

Some people might find the registration procedure tedious, but remember it's helping us enormously in keeping us free from comment spammers, spambots and other idiots who think we will buy soemthing from a spammer. :x


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Lol I was just randomly surfing through topics on the list – didn’t notice this one was a year old till now :lol: – in which case I don’t know what happened when I tried to register with my Gmail account – but oh well sorted now :)


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