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 Post subject: Correct pronunciation of 'Alekhine' and Tarrasch?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:32 am 
Can anyone tell me how 'Alekhine' is pronounced in Russian? And is Tarrasch pronounced /tarrASH/ ?


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 Post subject: Re: Correct pronunciation of 'Alekhine' and Tarrasch?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:14 pm 
Alastair_Allan wrote:
Can anyone tell me how 'Alekhine' is pronounced in Russian? And is Tarrasch pronounced /tarrASH/ ?


As far as I know Alekhine is pronounced Al-YAY-gheen with gh indicating a guttural g and Al between "Al" and "All". I suspect that in Russia they would pronounce it AL-yay-gheen, but not being the native speaker this is a bit of a guess. He lived in Paris for a long time, which might have affected the pronunciation.

Tarrasch AFAIK is pronounce TAR-rash with the second "a" pronounced the same as the first. The sch is a bit like the ch in choo(choo) :)


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 Post subject: Re: Correct pronunciation of 'Alekhine' and Tarrasch?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:34 am 
A copy from Wiki on Alekhine says:

^ When he became a French citizen, "Alekhine" became the correct way to spell his name in the Latin alphabet. He became angry when Russians sometimes pronounced it "Al-YOH-khin"[a?l^(j)?xin], which he regarded as a Yiddish distortion of his name, and insisted that the correct Russian pronunciation was "Al-YEH-khin". See Kmoch, H.. "Grandmasters I Have Known: Alexander Alexandrovich Alekhine".

I guess the forms Aljechin,Aljehin and Alehin used in some European countries amounts to the same thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Correct pronunciation of 'Alekhine' and Tarrasch?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:21 am 
'mrmip' is correct. I heard a 1930's 6 minute radio interview of Alekhine, in English. The interviewer pronounced it:
"al YEKK inn" (yes with a 'Y' sound; and he called him "Doctor Alekhine").

BTWay, Alekhine told the interviewer that only people born with certain innate skills have a chance to become World Chess Champion.

I have never heard Capablanca's voice nor that of any earlier WCChamp. I have never heard Botvinnik's voice, though there must be plenty of recordings of him, because his died in 1995. I have never heard Smyslov, nor Petrosian.


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 Post subject: Re: Correct pronunciation of 'Alekhine' and Tarrasch?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:32 am 
Gene_M wrote:
'mrmip' is correct. I heard a 1930's 6 minute radio interview of Alekhine, in English. The interviewer pronounced it:
"al YEKK inn" (yes with a 'Y' sound; and he called him "Doctor Alekhine").

BTWay, Alekhine told the interviewer that only people born with certain innate skills have a chance to become World Chess Champion.

I have never heard Capablanca's voice nor that of any earlier WCChamp. I have never heard Botvinnik's voice, though there must be plenty of recordings of him, because his died in 1995. I have never heard Smyslov, nor Petrosian.


Thanks to all who helped with my query about pronounciation. I would go along with the BBC 1930's announcer's version, which I had heard but
had forgotten about, because in those days they were sticklers for accuracy in prounouncing names, and had an officer dedicated to checking that
kind of thing.


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