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 Post subject: What should be the plan?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:09 am 
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I reached the above position in a rated correspondence game.
I am White with a pawn down. I need to hold for a strong finish.
White should hold. However I cannot figure out a plan.

So I ask: What should be tha plan? Note White to Move!

Thanks in advance! :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: What should be the plan?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:53 pm 
Well firstly, it’s against the rules to ask for advice from other people in an ongoing CC game :roll: :wink:

That said *cough, cough* you shouldn’t let Black be the one to trade Rooks in that position - your d pawn will end up isolated, then it’s game over for White.

Personally though, I don’t agree with your assessment, I think it’s a loss for White anyway, because of Black’s extra pawn and Queenside pawn majority. When you move the Rook he will probably play Re1+ and then your g and h pawns are impossible to defend.

I think you’re best move is probably to play RxR yourself to avoid the check and the isolated d pawn, then try and use the time to move you’re King up to try and block his Queenside pawns.

I think you’ll be very lucky to even get a draw though.


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 Post subject: Re: What should be the plan?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:47 pm 
To be honest I did not reach this position in fact.
However I may reach this position if I take a certain route.
So there is nothing unethical going on.

To exchange rooks in a Kings and pawns ending when you are a pawn down in unthinkable!

But still thanks for your comment!


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 Post subject: Re: What should be the plan?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:40 pm 
askural wrote:
To exchange rooks in a Kings and pawns ending when you are a pawn down in unthinkable!


In that position I’m not so sure, because nothing good comes of leaving the Rooks on - you can’t leave you’re Rook on the file, but if you surrender the file you are going to drop pawns. Seems like you might have had a better (although slim) drawing chances, by going into an endgame with the pawn down.

Although now I've had a longer look, there is Rg4, which defends the pawns after the check and slows his progress on the kingside.


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 Post subject: Re: What should be the plan?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:55 am 
:mrgreen:
Hello!
I took a completely different route to end up with equal pawns and Rook and a minor piece for both sides.
As you said the position seems to be a loss. The Black King goes to c5 and pushes the pawns to b5,a4 and b4 with the rook on g2 to check the pawns on the King's side. Now the White King cannot leave the post on b2 because the Black King penetrates via d4and c3. So the threat of b3 witha pin by the g2 rook is definetely one of the plans for a win.

Thank God it was possible to avoid it.
In case you are interested I will give alink after the game ends.
So drop in a message!
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 Post subject: Re: What should be the plan?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:26 pm 
I'm not that fussed to be honest mate :wink: Got way too many CC games of my own going on Redhotpawn.


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